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January 4, 2013


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Thank you everyone!

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 8:31 AM
  • Listening to: KARA- Pandora
  • Reading: KHR chapter 401
  • Drinking: strawberry tea
Yesterday when  I was submitting my Draw it again- meme picture I didn't expect to receive so many comments. At first, it was surprising to me that there were people who liked the old version better. I must admit that my first feeelings were sadness and disapointment because I didn't improve as much as I wanted. But then I started to realise that it's actually great to get so much feedback because now it will be easier for me to correct all the mistakes.

That's why I would like to express my gratitude to you for all your wonderful comments! To be honest, I was stuck with this image for many months because I didn't know how to draw it. Especially :iconanikakinka: and :iconmonikapalosz:- thank you for your patience with me, for your great advice , suggestions!

I'm going to correct the things you mentioned in your comments and when it's ready, I will submit the 2012 version (but this time as the 2013 upgrade ^_- ) as the separate deviation.

Once again, thank you DA community for your support and feedback :).

Also, thank you so much for all the devwatches and favs!

Our Sweet Army of Cupcakes

:iconanikakinka: :iconred-priest-usada: :iconmonikapalosz: :iconlen-yan: :icontsukishoujo:
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angelbaby4 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Mmm...I don't see where you would get these negative criticisms you have mentioned. I see a lot of improvements between your original and your redo. I believe your coloring has vastly improved, as well as the structure of the male model. The new art has depth and the expression is more focused/serious than your original. I also love how crisp and certain the lineart is. It really feels like you've grown from your characters having a 2D look about them into becoming more 3 dimension. The only negative thing I could say about this redo is that the wrinkles feel out of there are too many of them. But even that took a serious scrutinizing of the piece to come up with. I love it. Keep up with your awesome improvements and I hope to see more from you in the future. Sorry if it feels like I'm commenting out of the blue. I do look at your art when it's submitted to my feed, but I rarely comment. I'll always be your adoring watcher from afar. ;)
Red-Priest-Usada Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
I didn't write about negative criticism. I mean the comments of people who liked the older version better made me a little bit sad. When you do an improvement meme your aim is to make a better picture. That's why I was surprised some people didn't like it. I received two different kinds of feedback and I love both of them. The first one is about what my watchers like in my old drawing (crying skulls, punk clothes, color scheme) and the second one was about things that need to be corrected in the 2012 picture (folds as you mentioned, details on the wings, light on the hair and the jacket).
You know, it's the first time I received so many comments which are not just "cute", "kawaii", "nice". Except comments "he is Death Note man" etc which are funny to me because people tend to find similarities to the characters they already know (but it wasn't my intention to make another Light's copy OTL).
angelbaby4 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, I misunderstood that part. Thanks for the clarification! I was confused that you were getting negative criticisms for such a lovely redo. xD I think they are both good stand alone pieces and I'm relieved there's no real bashing on them.

:D It's really nice how people banded together to give you actual criticisms, though. I think hearing true thoughts on a piece are always nicer. I hope that the extended comments on your pieces are a trend that continues from here on out.
GoodGirl-BadGirl Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013
I think both versions are great, but I really like the second one. :)
ClefairyKid Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013
Do you mean "Bonds of Death"? No disrepect, but I think that it blows the first version out of the water, and I'm not just saying it in sympathy or anything. It has a very appealing lighting and colour scheme, it actually pops and catch's the viewer's eye whereas the first one is duller and dirtier looking, and I think trying to make something so dark eye-catching like you did in the second, is a difficult skill to master.

The shading on the skulls for instance, is much better defined with sharper and more contrasted shading, which is more effective than the soft edged brush style shading on the older one, where I feel like there is an overall stronger emphasis and/or reliance on the overlayed textures in order to increase the detail and interest in the piece (although not always a "bad" thing I think it's always a mark of improvement when you can come to rely mostly on your own shading and drawing techniques with less use of outside textures and materials, or at least in a less obvious way).

The shading and highlights themselves on the face alone are more defined and give variety and expression to the face that isn't so smoothly conveyed in the first. The chains are more effectively used as parts of the composition by being added to the background rather than just the foreground, because in the first their almost unusually uniform squareness distracts some of the attention from the main subject, whereas in the second, being partly in shadow helps to become an accent or nice addition to the overall atmosphere rather than distraction, and makes better sense composition wise.

There's so much I like about the second, I could be here all day explaining why I like it better in so many aspects :lmao:
Red-Priest-Usada Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
Thank you so much for your comment. I enjoyed reading very much. I especially like the part about the usage of textures. I couldn't write it better.
In 2008 I discovered how the textures can be appplied to the pictures and I started experimenting with them. The beginners in using Photoshop tend to make the shading in their pictures look very smooth, almost plastic like (especially when you use airbrush only ^_-). Adding textures results in a more rough surface. The disadvantage is that it flattens the whole shading and the details are less visible. Back then I didn't know anything about color and light theory and I didn't pay attention to the folds or fabric. I feel that I still have to learn but my actual knowledge doesn't let me look at my old drawings with pleasure or satisfaction ; ).
Kitten-Panda Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013
*reads journal*

*goes to check out the deviation you're talking about*

Dude, wtf. I didn't even get this in my inbox. D; I love looking at before and after deviations. TBH, I like your more recent version more, but people have different tastes in styles, and maybe that's why they liked the old version better. I think you improved a lot, imo. The actual before and after deviations - there's so much more accuracy, detail, and correct shading/highlighting in the recent one.

However, it's good that, though you didn't get much feedback, and it might have hurt or have been discouraging that people liked your older version better, that you found positivity in it, and were able to rise above the situation.

Keep working hard!
ninja25star-pikaluv Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013
Really? Well, everyone has their own opinion, but I honestly think the new versions are better! Your style has changed so much. The colors seem more appropriate (? can't think of the right word...) to what you are drawing, and the tones are great. I see so much improvement! It's really inspiring to see how good goes to great. :)
Red-Priest-Usada Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013
I also think the second one is better but at the same time I learnt what else can be improved there and I decided to give it a try. I wasn't fully satisfied with the results for almost half a year because even though I felt it's not ok yet I couldn't get the idea what was actually missing.
Aisyeraa Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i think you r actually improving. i remember the first time i watch you is because of the long red hair girl kissing with man, and after i saw your arts again, it's actually getting better and great, the colours are lovely.
just keep practice, i love your arts. :love:
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